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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/26 13:03:57 )

(update: I've cooled down and am working through this. THank you for advice as always, you guys are always there when I need someone the most <3 tyty)



WHAT THE FUUUCCC@$%@$^&#

I'm so angry
and so so so hurt
this motherfffffff

Right when everything was looking good in life, I thought I finally had this normal life with normal levels of oxygen, less threats on my life and a good fiance at my side who i can count on.

To start, I came home from work last night and I started stressing about my finances being so tight again, cause I noticed my cars gas has been depleting a lot faster than what seemed normal. I cried a bit and after i calmed, I remembered that my fiance has been paying for the gas lately and he doesn't have a job right now. So with innocent intention, I asked to see his statements to see what its been costing him so that I can reimburse. Actually first I asked how much money he had left, cause he's been saying 3k for a month now so i felt that maybe he wasn't checking his accounts often enough.

Anyway, he suddenly got very nervous and he said "I don't want to show you because I'm embarrassed by it"
I'm like hey, it's ok to not have a job, i got us. you're doing what you can, I only want to help since you've been pitching in a lot here, I don't want you to hit the negatives.

we're fiance, we can do this together.

He starts to admit he lied about what money he has, that he's basically almost out of money. his checking has been pulling from his savings a lot cause he's overcharging. I convince him to let me see, because i was still convinced it was gas and other stuff i knew about. like lie aside, i trusted him and im just here to help until he gets on his feet again.

but it was drugs.
weed, soft drugs, not inherently wrong, but given more context im furious.

there were also a ton of extra charges for eating out behind my back a lot, buying video games, subscriptions to services, paying for ad blocks on mobile games, buying ingame contents very frequently. his credit card has a long list of late payments and its over a hundred in the hole cause of weed once again.

before we started dating i made it pretty fucking clear, I've had only very painful experiences with drug users, even if it's "just weed". i don't want it in my life or in my partner, I'm done dealing with it.
i don't care what my friends do with it so if he chose to use it, we could've stopped while we were ahead and remained friends. but he said it's not something he wanted to do anyways so no issue there.
well he started in February and lied to me since.

lied about drugs, lied about finances, lied about academics, lied about applying for jobs, lied

while I'm over here working my ASS off and getting no time to rest, he's over here sabotaging finances and nuking our relationship.

I haven't kicked him out since i felt i needed time to think and clear my head. but i don't know if i can ever trust him again. or anyone for that matter, it's always lies!


i guess for a quick filler, we've been through a ton together. just moved across the country together, me thinking i had an awesome supportive healthy relationship. now I'm quite terrified if i may be alone in this city soon

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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/26 15:24:32 )


as always venting on here helps a lot
i have a good support system irl but i cry too much so this is more helpful :'xxx

best they don't know anything

coffee today is more bitter but brings me a hint of relief

maybe two or three of you might remember i had similar trouble with dishonesty or like... is this dude not gonna put equal effort.

i mean.. I'm torn thinking he has been true all along but hides the things that makes him feel less than me. weed and low finances doesn't make anyone less than anyone, but i feel this is a sense in his mind while watching me succeed and fulfill my dreams. while he sits in my shadow, too fussed to lift a finger and can't be honest with anyone. or too depressed to.

hes done some really really hard shit to gain freedom away from his horrible family. he did that, himself, he physically fought for his future and ours together. but he never stopped lying in an area that could destroy all we fought for. money ain't everything but uh.. well we can't have anything without it. not the roof or the food, and we now have 2 animals to care for.

i want to think there's something to redeem here

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Donator — She/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/26 17:30:39 )


@Jolly: that’s a lot to unpack. How are you feeling? If you are feeling hurt, angry, upset, sad, and defeated those are all valid.

I’m pretty upset with him that he was doing this all behind your back. We all have low points were we spend a little more than we care to cause of our mental state, but what he was spending on was a lot. I can a little bit see were it started from but he just let it get out of control and at what point was he going to stop or tell you about it? You are working so hard and for him to spend all your money on fun is hurtful and wildly irresponsible.

So when is he picking up that new job? Retail, anything. Even if he has to mow lawns, flip burgers, or wash dishes. Retail in most places in the US is hiring right now.

Maybe write a letter to him explaining how you feel about all of this and how it makes you feel that this happened. And then read it aloud to him. You were hurt and your trust was betrayed and things like that don’t come back quickly.
When you do get money think about couples therapy.

If he has access to your money or debt cards make take them from him? Have him cancel what he can. If he has no money it’s harder to spend. And maybe he should take some online classes about money management. There are probably ones on YouTube for free.

I’m sure there is more advice to give but I really feel for you. This is a hard and painful thing. And it just brings up so much from the past too.


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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/26 18:37:58 )


@totalanimefan:
I immediately stopped seeing who this person is and all I could see are all the demons in my past and a total stranger, all at once. This is why I needed to step aside to clear my head for a few days (and to get through my 11 hour shifts without being emotional). Make sure I'm not judging him for someone else's similar sins..

but I also don't want to set myself up for hurt. this was too much on me. I always give chances, always think that maybe someone could act reasonably.

I have had no issue telling him exactly how I feel without filter. I want to think that his deeply expressed remorse is sincere, but i just never know anymore. so i can hardly give more than silence after last night.
he handed me his wallet to safekeep, so far he's canceled 2 subscriptions and i need to make sure he cancels the rest. he gave me his logins to eye his statements. It feels dirty to hold these things and like such a toxic situation. we have separate finances so i don't like controlling his like this. id like to think he cared enough about me and our fur/feather babies that he wouldn't go this far in the first place.

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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/26 18:42:31 )


i guess its worth saying, I'm also scared of what he might do to himself if his remorse IS sincere.
hes not threatening anything or anything like that but like.... hes not okay.


everyone i talk with whose close to me or both of us says i should give him the chance, given the context that he needs to learn how to start over after losing abusive family. HRNNNGGHH I'm too angry but I do trust the judgement of my friends.

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Donator — She/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/26 21:28:25 )


@Jolly: I don’t blame you. That’s the trauma you have been through. I got into an argument this week and I got very triggered during it and it reminded me of past things and I had to go into my bedroom and I came out when I felt better about it and wasn’t triggered.
I guess for now all you can do with work it out with him.
I’m sorry you are going through this -hugs-


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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/27 16:02:54 )


@totalanimefan:
siiighhh, ptsd is such a hard thing to live with sometimes. I'm still nervous to call it what it is, but it's very much valid for you too.

I'm glad that the 4 people i relied on during all this had stopped me from doing anything rash. took almost 24 hours to get me to not throw him out as a reflexive decision.

I talked with him more and he's handed over all the ropes. he's not to touch money aside from allowance id provide for gas or necessity. he cleaned the entire home spotless, organized all surfaces and canceled his subs, deleted the mobile games he was pouring money into. we're trying to wipe away all payments from his account and start clean.

it's all minor things but he swears to work on this moving forward and to make it up. we'll see how he redeems himself for 5 months of being slimy

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Donator — She/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/27 16:40:24 )


@Jolly: Our feelings are valid. And at least for me, realizing that helps me mentally. Do you don't have fight that part too. lol
Honestly, it would be hard not to throw him out XD But with the data we have now, we think it was just a spiraling mistake and he is on the path to recovery.
That's pretty good on him. Hopefully he will keep up with the cleaning, and looking for a job and being good with the money he gets. Maybe in a little while he can have one fun stress release type thing, but for now I think he just needed to start over from nothing like you were saying.
Maybe he should have a friend or the library look over his resume and work on it with him. That could be what's stopping him from getting a job. One time only after I turned in my resume to like 5 companies did I realize it had a typo in the 2nd line. OTL
I never got a call back from any of them.


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Donator — A.I. Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/27 18:12:35 )
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The fact that your fiance was eventually able to be honest with you, and the fact that you allowed yourself to cool down before making any large decisions, speaks volumes about your maturity and the strength of your relationship.

I do think you've hit the nail on the head in terms of his feelings and motivation for being untruthful; shame about unemployment and lying, perhaps hopelessness, and the coping mechanisms for that brief moment of not feeling like shit--or at least not caring. And it just keeps snowballing.

Having been in a similar spot, I feel for him; but you were very up-front about your ground rules, and have every right to be upset about the dishonesty. So many people fail to realise, or realise too late, that a life partner is called a partner for a reason! They're there to help shoulder burdens and assuage woes; to be vulnerable with. I wish our SOs/soon-to-be SOs would realise that we're meant to be their coping mechanism. Their safe place. Their shoulder to cry on. (Contrived generalisation here but you get me.)

This kind of wake-up call is often what it takes for reality to really hit someone.

It's a good sign that he's already taken steps towards better habits; I obviously don't know him like you do, but I do believe his remorse is genuine, and think it was wise not to kick him out right away. If he continues to make a conscious effort, then imho you can at least rest assured in that he values you and his relationship with you more than anything else. <3

There's my two cents, for what they're worth and nothing more. You've got a good head on your shoulders and seem to have good focus as well--don't lose that! Best wishes for the both of you. I sincerely hope things work out and loose ends come together for you both.


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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/30 17:24:56 )


@Totalanimefan:
@Vii:

Thank you both for talking to me, this has helped me a lot into cooling down and making the right decisions ;;
I'm much happier that I settled down and decided to work it out with him. He is exactly the right person for me, he just still has a little darkness in him from a long-winded trauma that he only very recently got out of. I see his efforts though and even though it still hurts a lot, I dont feel like I'm suffering or anything.
He's cleaning himself up, it'll take time, but I can see that he really means to try and that he values my attempts to push him forward.

Here's to hoping that things go well! Got him m&ms to help with the nervous fidgets and he's definitely eating them out of sake cups to limit consumption (working on self discipline) lmao
Put phones and games down some more, working on creating solid routines and reducing ourselves to 1-2 video games so we dont over indulge and can work on simplifying our downtime. Makes it easier to cut down gaming hours too, and instead read books or do other things that get the brain moving healthily.

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Donator — She/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/30 18:20:07 )


@Jolly: I’m glad you are feeling better. It’s a long road to recovery but you guys are already on it.

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Donator — A.I. Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/08/30 19:06:30 )
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@Jolly: You've both got spectacular maturity and self-discipline as it stands! That momentum will help you breeze along. I'm no expert but it definitely seems like you're both well equipped for the long haul, and absolutely deserve to be! c:

M&Ms shots is an adorable technique. Hopefully it works out well for him!

And I'm glad that hashing things out was helpful for you. <3 Sometimes it can feel like screaming into the void... but heck, even if it is, that still feels really good. lol





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Donator — buckaroo Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/09/21 22:07:19 )
@jolly:

I know this is kind of old, but gosh darn if this isn't the exact thing that's been happening to me.

My partner had to quit his job, in fact I encouraged him to quit from the toxic environment he was in.
I'm working and barely scraping by. I'm paying his insurance, food, gas, etc. which I don't mind doing.
Pretty much just like your situation.

Yet, he spends what little he has on weed.
When he could be saving it to help me with our shared expenses.

To me, smoking and drinking is a luxury that you can enjoy when you're in excess.
NOT in the red.

I guess I just don't understand, as I've never felt reliant on any substance.
My boyfriend is an ex-addict and 7 years sober so this is something of a mountain for him to overcome.

I'm trying not to take it personal,
but sometimes I can't help but feel like I'm not important enough.
If I was, he'd be able to quit temporarily until we're back of our feet.

This is something we struggle with continually,
but as of right now we're getting closer to compromise.

I just wanted to say that I'm in your boat, lol.
Idk if we're sinking or floating yet, but I think we're gonna make it c`:

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Donator — buckaroo Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/09/21 22:12:55 )
@jolly:

Thanks for sharing what you did, it's true that you never really know who's going through the exact same thing.
I really feel like your post is giving me the courage to keep on going!

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Voltie — she/her Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/09/21 22:30:08 )


@icedchai:
I'm so sorry, it really is hard when you feel like you're the only one carrying the load while the other gets to relax as much as they want. While spending funds that should go toward regaining the balance D:
Have you been able to communicate with him about this?
Weed is indeed a luxury and while withdrawals are still a thing, and they will turn him into a royal pain for a bit, if he's doing it for himself and his family (you) and it means enough to him, it's very much possible to put a stop to it. Like you said, until you guys are stable enough to afford it again, if it is something you felt like picking back up.

I am grateful in my situation that quitting was not a problem to my partner. Its hard because anxiety and emotions get stronger when you cold-turkey it, but he did it because, like you suggest, there are more important things. The greatest difficulty is battling depression and learning how to sit with himself. He holds a lot of anger and regret, guilt, and just a ton of negative emotion that weed used to be his go-to to numb all of that. But as he works toward healing rather than hiding from his trauma, he's gradually finding that he feels a more true sense of ease and happiness without a substance.

If he is willing to put it down, I do recommend getting a jar of something like m&m's to help occupy his mouth, to counter cravings or munchies

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Donator — buckaroo Posted 3 years ago ( 2021/09/21 22:45:03 )
@jolly:

What's actually pretty interesting is that you posted this 3 weeks ago, and that's right about the time we were in the thick of it. Since just last week he's gotten a part time job that he loves! And we were able to make rent and all the bills for the month. I was worried we weren't going to make it.

We're working on the weed thing, he's been getting some from his friend who is very generous. And I was able to communicate with him my feelings. He wasn't intentionally trying to hurt me, but it ended up hurting anyway.

We're getting through this. Financial uncertainty can really affect your metal state, and I think that's what was happening. We let our anxieties take over, and then took out that anxiety on each other.

And I'm so happy to hear that things are getting better between you and your love!
I seriously wouldn't want to do life with anyone else.
Relationships are hard, but so worth all the effort we put into them. Cause no is perfect.

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